116. From Hot Mess to Success: A Conversation with Jana Marie Toutolmin

Welcome friends. You are listening to this week's episode of Mind Power Meets Mystic with me, Michelle Walters and my podcast pal, Cinthia Varkevisser. We are excited today because we have a guest. We haven't had a guest in a couple weeks, and so we are really excited to be here with our friend Jana Marie Toutolmin, award-winning author Jana Marie Toutolmin, known as the Catalyst for Clarity, empowers women in leadership worldwide, founder of the Crystal Clear Coaching program. She combines science, technology, and spirituality in her revolutionary Crystal Clear technique to help clients overcome core challenges and unlock their highest potential. With 38 years in medical and graduate education, mentoring over 15,000 students, Jana now dedicates her expertise in guiding 1 million women to lead with integrity, compassion, and conviction. She lives with her husband of 28 years among the redwoods of Northern California. Welcome, Jana Marie.

Thank you, Michelle. Thank you, Cinthia. I'm thrilled to be here with you girls.

So, Ms. Jana Marie, I've had the pleasure of having a few connection calls with you, and really getting in on that spiritual level. And I love that we, before we got on here, we talked about frequencies as well as angelic readings and messages. Right now, I just want to go on the angelic side. I am a, I don't like saying I'm a recovering Catholic, but I do have Catholic background, and I have a mild Catholic aversion, which means that there's still a little bit of a funny thing that happens in my stomach when we talk about anything that has to do with angels. Part of it is because we, I was brought up that we don't have a direct connection with higher source, right? And so, and so, I'm still working at this tender age, still working through that. I would love for you to talk to us about angels, how they work with you, and how I can get away or move beyond this Catholic aversion.

Sure, I understand. I hear that a lot, and since the calling came to me from, you know, I didn't know where, just voices start telling me, "Leave your job, come work for us." I'm like, "Who are you? Where are you? What is going on?" And discovered that it is the angelic realm. And so, there is a realm called the seraphim, who have come now to Earth in the last 20 years or so, they have the power of love, just love, love, love at the highest level. And so, to answer your question about aversion like that, angels are in every religion. So, if you go and look historically, even in the Bible, you know, there's angels everywhere. They're messengers of the highest power. So, I have found, even when I was working with Les Brown, I asked him, "You know when you say God, you know what happens? You know, when you're trying to, you know, do your pitches and talk to people about this." And he says, "You lose about 80% of your audience." I thought, "Wow, okay, that's interesting." And so, what he explained is, "You have to reach in at a deeper level for people, right? I mean, everyone has some kind of spiritual something going on." And so, for you, it's this aversion about the angels. So, I don't know what you were told about angels. I was raised Catholic and told that we had angels, and I could talk to them anytime I wanted to. So, I grew up with that, and then when it came, I still, I was shocked and surprised that I was hearing something, actually hearing it, as opposed to just feeling it in my heart and having a childhood belief. Right? So, one of the things in my coaching program, I do, is go and address all these things that you were told as a child, whether it be religious or spiritual or beliefs about yourself, that aren't true anymore. I mean, you're not five anymore. Now you're whatever age you are, and we have to grow up that child to the current time to understand what we know now as opposed to what you knew then. And so that's how I would help you integrate. That is to bring it together. And let's find out what you were believing then and why it's confusing to you now, and then discover who you really are. What do you want to believe? What do you feel is right for you? Spiritually? A lot of people aren't, well, I would say more and more people are now trying to tune in, because they're hearing about frequencies and what they mean. I mean, everything's a frequency, even behind you in your background, it's all that's all frequency, right? And the angelic, the angels are just another frequency. God's a frequency, Buddha's a frequency. Paramahansa, Yogananda was a person and now a frequency. Ascended Masters. I mean, you know, there's lots of ways to look at frequencies, and I like, what I like to do is upgrade your internal operating system. And so people who are willing and open to it, I think it's fantastic because you can communicate with your angels, you have spirit guides. There's a whole lot of spirit on the other side that wants to help you, and all you have to do is tune in, and everybody can do it. Like, what I do isn't really special. I just studied it and perfected my communication and the connection. And now I can do that. You can do it. Michelle can do it. Anybody can. It just takes some studying and practice. And of course, you know, meditating, which people go, "Oh, meditate. I don't want to meditate. I can't meditate." People,

Exactly, I read it, yes.

If you can be in an evening, in some like trance-like state in some way, then you can slow everything down so that you can actually make the connection. Does that help or answer your question? Cinthia, well,

Yes, so I, oh, I, well, I like to use the vibe, right? So I totally vibe with the word frequencies, which, because frequencies, same thing, um, and so to hear that, you know, angels are just a different vibe then, right? Because, then there's no name, it's just a vibrational value. So

Exactly right, right? And yeah, because I like our devices.

Oh, sorry, no, that's fine. You're fine. Well, like

As your devices, right? You have an iPad and you have an iPhone and you have a Mac, would not you? Let's say I have a Mac, and I this, and I that, and I whatever, whatever you have, it's a device, and they're all just hooked up on a frequency. So whether you speak to, you know, Buddha or God or the angels, or, you know, Metatron and ascended master, or you just look up and speak, spirit will hear you. The universe is always on your side. And the other real important point that I learned, and I love, is the universe always says yes, and so how you speak makes a difference. So what you want to do is put everything in a positive sense, right? So I saw this lady at 711 buying a lottery ticket, and as the lady handed it to her, the lady takes the ticket from her hand, and she says, "Well, I'm not going to win anyway," and me being the bad insky I am, I said, "Excuse me. Excuse me. Just a second. Do you realize what you just said? You just told the universe that you're not going to win anyway." So the universe looks down and goes, "Well, she's not going to win. She doesn't even want to win," right? So that's a vibe, that's a frequency. She sent that frequency straight up to the universe. Instead of saying, "I'm going to win, I have a huge chance of winning." And so the universe only says yes. It doesn't say no. So everything you say, you have to put it in

In that format. You have to put everything in the positive format, yeah.

So when the universe has a chance to answer, it says yes, you Yes. I see what you want well,

And I teach. I teach people this as well. I teach it from the perspective of hypnosis, and, you know, even like, I agree with you ladies like, and I'm I'm not as woo as you get, but I'm kind of on the woo side of things. But what I have also realized in my studying of just the brain and the way we are physically wired. We are wired to think about and believe in the things that, you know, the ideas and, you know, words that we use in our heads. So, you know, I teach a class about hypnosis, and one of the things I say is, you know, you got to think about what you want, not what you don't want. And so when I tell people, you know, if I say pink elephant, do not think of a pink elephant. Whatever you do, don't think about it. Everybody thinks of a pink elephant, because we're wired to do that. And so, you know? And I was saying to somebody just yesterday, I was talking about another about a friend of mine, and I'm like, "Well, you know, I think she's decided she can't find a man. She's decided it's impossible." If you've decided it's impossible, it's pretty much impossible, impossible. The only way to open that door is to believe the door opens. You know, right?

Exactly, exactly, right. There. There's so many frequencies in everything we do. I mean, how you're aligned every day when you wake up? You know, how are you aligning yourself with the day? Because there's all these frequencies going on around you. If you go to a job where there's like a brick and mortar place and there's people around you, if that person had a bad night or a bad day, that's all over them, and it's easy to pick it up if you're not, you know, paying attention to what's going on around you, but you know, empathy, trust the why me? Why me? Why me? Lord, oh, why me. You know, your body has a frequency. Energy is a frequency. Empathy, the angel wisdom. I mean, all of it, everything is a frequency. And once you understand the depth of what that is, and especially in the brain, like with emotional fluidity, when I started working at UCSF, I was only 17 or 18 years old at the time. And Mike Stryker came up with emotional fluidity and how the brain, how you can change your mind. And he started, you know, like getting into all of this. And, I mean, I was so excited to be working with neuroscientists at the time, because I love the brain. I mean, how the brain works. Yeah, it was very cool. And so, you know, I followed along, you know, all the years that I was there, you know, with all these scientists and all the discoveries along the way. But yeah, I would have been a neuroscientist if had I had a different path. But this was the one I'm on, because I had my calling, and here I am. This is it. What I do.

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I want to ask a little bit more about these angels and get a better sense of what they do. And I understood from what you were saying before, that sometimes maybe they come in and directly help your clients, and sometimes they're really helping you to help your clients. Is that, is that fair to say? What? But what help, what, what? And I heard they're all about love, but like, right? Maybe an example would help. Jennifer, right?

Okay, so I call it divine guidance from the angelic realm, okay? And so both of the things you said are true, so the angels do come through me and provide information and guidance. So I, when I tune into that frequency, when I'm working with someone who wants to speak and get direct communication, then I, what I would do is say to the person, do you have any questions for your angels or your spirit guides? And they'll say, Oh, yes, you know, was I adopted? Or, you know, whatever question they want to have. So the one thing about, let me start with the angels. So they have one rule, and the rule is that they have to leave you to your free will, so they can't intervene in your free will. However, if you're about to die and it's not your time, they can save your life. Okay? So I've been plucked a couple of times, like, you know, when I could be, I could have been dead a couple of times, and they saved my life. And I know it was something out of the blue. I was driving near a lake late at night, coming home from my grandmother's house, and I fell asleep at the wheel, and when I want... What happened is somebody grabbed me from the back. I'm alone in my car, and somebody grabbed me from the back of my hair and pulled my head back, and like whiplash, pulled my head back. I opened my eyes, and I was like this close to driving into Lake Merced, where I lived, and... and someone else, or, you know, whatever, took the wheel and turned the wheel like this, and so I went back over the curb and onto John Muir drive, and I was awake for like three days after that, my adrenaline was just like I knew, because it's 11 o'clock at night. Had I driven in that lake, I would... nobody goes in that lake. It's just a bunch of Tulis out there. People fish. So maybe my car would have floated to the top sometime, but I would have been missing for a long, long time. So that was a strange experience. And that's when I realized, wow, there is, like, something so much bigger. And another time, the big earthquake in San Francisco, I was in the elevator, and when the earthquake happened, and so the elevator kind of went, you know, up, down, up, down. We heard this big boom and a big blast, lights went out. And I was the person who, you know how people are when you get an elevator, the last person who sneaks in backwards with their nose up to the door, right? Because it's, it's five o'clock and everybody's trying to leave work, and that's me. So there I am with my nose to the door. And when the earthquake happened, the elevator stopped, and it kept bouncing and bouncing, and when it stopped, somebody took my hands and put them between... you know how the door is with the rubber there, took my hands with these long nails and stuck it in the rubber and opened the doors. Okay. Now I do not have the strength to do that. There's no way I could do that, my hands just reached up and opened the doors, and then the earthquake happened, like the big shake, and it shot us out of the elevator, like out of one of those, those little things that you shoot candy out of. All of us were shot, like 25 people shot out of the elevator door like out of a Pez. And yeah. And so, you know, those are two experiences that I had where I know something else took over and it wasn't me. So when you have the experience, then you know, people who've never had an experience like that are like, Yeah, sounds a little fishy to me. And, you know, a lot of eye rolling, and it's like, I know what happened to me, and so I have to... it helped me to learn to stand in my truth, and not only about that, but everything else, right? So it really changed my life, like drastically, when I realized that. So the angels have the power to help, that they also have the power to guide. And the other important thing is they can't do their job. So their job on the other side, they're messengers of the universe, God, higher power source, ELOHEEM, whatever you want to call the higher source power, their messengers. And I mean, all of it can't be done by one person. I mean, how would that even be possible? Right? It's hard to multitask with a human and so the angels, what they do is they partner up with us so that we can do our job down here by helping them do their job from up there. So really, it's, for me, it's a partnership. And that's what I try to tell people who question it, you know, it's not just like I have some gift. I mean, I studied about this. I was contacted. I'm now in this frequency. I can operate from this frequency, and I can help guide others in this partnership. I have to help you get your own partnership. I mean, I want you to have this too, you know? And I don't teach it, but I kind of do just by what I say. And do you know, people can learn to tune into that frequency.

Does that answer your question? Michelle? Yeah, yeah. I think it's okay. Good, good. Tell us a little bit about your books. You have, you have a couple of books. Tell, tell us about what? What are the names of the books? What's in the books? What? Why? Why would people want your books? Oh, because they're brilliant.

yes, of course. Let's, let's, let's find what, what's going to what's going to help somebody listening to this today go, gotta check out that book. Yeah, I'm really excited because you're talking about, what you're doing is you've expanded your work, and we're talking about angelic work to frequency work. And so the thing that I love is you're speaking my language now, right? You've been speaking other people's language, and now you're speaking mine, which means that you've just broadened your your things. So I'd love to hear more about the two books that you have, right? So yes, and the what you have in common, right?

, which will be coming out in: 2025